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Jean-Marc Nattier: Astrological Article and Chart

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Jean-Marc Nattier
Date of birth
Saturday, March 17, 1685 (time unknown)
City of birth
Paris (France)
Pisces
Leo
Sagittarius
Signs
Neptune
Venus
Mars
Planets
Water
Fire
Elements
4
Birth Path
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Horoscope and chart of Jean-Marc Nattier

Astrology chart of Jean-Marc Nattier Horoscope and birth chart of Jean-Marc Nattier, born March 17, 1685 (time unknown), Paris (France) 20° 08' 51' 15' 48' 38' 27° 33' 08' 15° 45' 45' 17° 38' 15° 22' 12° 45'
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Leo
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Pisces
Sun 27°33' Pisces
Sun Aspects
Sun conjunction Midheaven orb 2°11'
Sun trine Ascendant orb 6°18'
Sun sesqui-quadrate Moon orb 2°48'
Moon 15°22' Leo
Moon Aspects
Moon sextile Jupiter orb 4°46'
Sun sesqui-quadrate Moon orb 2°48'
Moon trine Mars orb 8°30'
Mercury 0°15' Pisces
Mercury Aspects
Mercury conjunction Neptune orb 2°23'
Mercury conjunction Venus orb 0°33'
Mercury sextile Uranus orb 3°53'
Mercury square Mars orb 6°35'
Mercury sesqui-quadrate Pluto orb 2°22'
Venus 0°48' Pisces
Venus Aspects
Venus conjunction Neptune orb 1°50'
Mercury conjunction Venus orb 0°33'
Venus sextile Uranus orb 3°20'
Venus square Mars orb 6°02'
Venus sesqui-quadrate Pluto orb 1°49'
Mars 6°51' Sagittarius
Mars Aspects
Mars square Neptune orb 4°12'
Mars sesqui-quadrate Ascendant orb 0°36'
Venus square Mars orb 6°02'
Mars square Saturn orb 5°54'
Mercury square Mars orb 6°35'
Mars inconjunction Uranus orb 2°42'
Moon trine Mars orb 8°30'
Jupiter 20°08' Я Libra
Jupiter Aspects
Jupiter square Ascendant orb 1°05'
Jupiter square Pluto orb 2°30'
Moon sextile Jupiter orb 4°46'
Jupiter sesqui-quadrate Neptune orb 2°29'
Saturn 12°45' Я Virgo
Saturn Aspects
Mars square Saturn orb 5°54'
Saturn sextile Pluto orb 4°53'
Uranus 4°08' Taurus
Uranus Aspects
Uranus sextile Neptune orb 1°30'
Venus sextile Uranus orb 3°20'
Mercury sextile Uranus orb 3°53'
Mars inconjunction Uranus orb 2°42'
Neptune 2°38' Pisces
Neptune Aspects
Venus conjunction Neptune orb 1°50'
Mercury conjunction Neptune orb 2°23'
Uranus sextile Neptune orb 1°30'
Mars square Neptune orb 4°12'
Neptune sesqui-quadrate Pluto orb 0°00'
Jupiter sesqui-quadrate Neptune orb 2°29'
Pluto 17°38' Я Cancer
Pluto Aspects
Pluto conjunction Ascendant orb 3°35'
Jupiter square Pluto orb 2°30'
Neptune sesqui-quadrate Pluto orb 0°00'
Venus sesqui-quadrate Pluto orb 1°49'
Saturn sextile Pluto orb 4°53'
Pluto trine Midheaven orb 7°43'
Mercury sesqui-quadrate Pluto orb 2°22'
North Node 3°45' Я Cancer
Lilith 15°45' Я Taurus
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Biography of Jean-Marc Nattier (excerpt)

Jean-Marc Nattier (March 17, 1685 - 1766), French painter, was born in Paris, the son of Marc Nattier, a portrait painter, and of Marie Courtois, a miniaturist. He received his first instruction from his father, and having applied himself to copying pictures at the Luxembourg Gallery, he refused to proceed to the French Academy in Rome, though he had taken the first prize at the Paris Academy at the age of fifteen. In 1715 he went to Amsterdam, where Peter the Great was then staying, and painted portraits of the tsar and the empress Catherine, but declined an offer to go to Russia.

Astrological portrait of Jean-Marc Nattier (excerpt)

Disclaimer: these short excerpts of astrological charts are computer processed. They are, by no means, of a personal nature. This principle is valid for the celebrities included in our database. These texts provide the meanings of planets, or combination of planets, in signs and in houses, as well as the interpretations of planetary dominants in line with modern Western astrology rules. Moreover, since Astrotheme is not a polemic website, no negative aspect which may damage the good reputation of a celebrity is posted here, unlike in the comprehensive astrological portrait.

Introduction

Here are some character traits from Jean-Marc Nattier's birth chart. This description is far from being comprehensive but it can shed light on his/her personality, which is still interesting for professional astrologers or astrology lovers.

N.B.: as this celebrity's birth time is unknown, the chart is arbitrarily calculated for 12:00 PM - the legal time for his/her place of birth; since astrological houses are not taken into account, this astrological profile excerpt is less detailed than those for which the birth time is known.

In a matter of minutes, you can get at your email address your astrological portrait (approximately 32 pages), a much more comprehensive report than this portrait of Jean-Marc Nattier.

The dominant planets of Jean-Marc Nattier

When interpreting a natal chart, the best method is to start gradually from general features to specific ones. Thus, there is usually a plan to be followed, from the overall analysis of the chart and its structure, to the description of its different character traits.

In the first part, an overall analysis of the chart enables us to figure out the personality's main features and to emphasize several points that are confirmed or not in the detailed analysis: in any case, those general traits are taken into account. Human personality is an infinitely intricate entity and describing it is a complex task. Claiming to rapidly summarize it is illusory, although it does not mean that it is an impossible challenge. It is essential to read a natal chart several times in order to absorb all its different meanings and to grasp all this complexity. But the exercise is worthwhile.

In brief, a natal chart is composed of ten planets: two luminaries, the Sun and the Moon, three fast-moving or individual planets, Mercury, Venus and Mars, two slow-moving planets, Jupiter and Saturn, and three very slow-moving planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Additional secondary elements are: the Lunar Nodes, the Dark Moon or Lilith, Chiron and other minor objects. They are all posited on the Zodiac wheel consisting of twelve signs, from Aries to Pisces, and divided into twelve astrological houses.

The first step is to evaluate the importance of each planet. This is what we call identifying the dominant planets. This process obeys rules that depend on the astrologer's sensitivity and experience but it also has precise and steady bases: thus, we can take into account the parameters of a planet's activity (the number of active aspects a planet forms, the importance of each aspect according to its nature and its exactness), angularity parameters; (proximity to the four angles, Ascendant, Midheaven, Descendant and Imum Coeli or Nadir, all of them being evaluated numerically, according to the kind of angle and the planet-angle distance) and quality parameters (rulership, exaltation, exile and fall). Finally, other criteria such as the rulership of the Ascendant and the Midheaven etc. are important.

These different criteria allow a planet to be highlighted and lead to useful conclusions when interpreting the chart.

The overall chart analysis begins with the observation of three sorts of planetary distributions in the chart: Eastern or Western hemisphere, Northern or Southern hemisphere, and quadrants (North-eastern, North-western, South-eastern and South-western). These three distributions give a general tone in terms of introversion and extraversion, willpower, sociability, and behavioural predispositions.

Then, there are three additional distributions: elements (called triplicity since there are three groups of signs for each one) - Fire, Air, Earth and Water - corresponding to a character typology, modality (or quadruplicity with four groups of signs for each one) - Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable - and polarity (Yin and Yang).

There are three types of dominants: dominant planets, dominant signs and dominant houses. The novice thinks astrology means only "to be Aries" or sometimes, for example, "to be Aries Ascendant Virgo". It is actually far more complex. Although the Sun and the Ascendant alone may reveal a large part of the character - approximately a third or a half of your psychological signature, a person is neither "just the Sun" (called the sign) nor just "the first house" (the Ascendant). Thus, a particular planet's influence may be significantly increased; a particular sign or house may contain a group of planets that will bring nuances and sometimes weaken the role of the Ascendant, of the Sun sign etc.

Lastly, there are two other criteria: accentuations (angular, succedent and cadent) which are a classification of astrological houses and types of decanates that are occupied (each sign is divided into three decanates of ten degrees each). They provide some additional informations.

These general character traits must not be taken literally; they are, somehow, preparing for the chart reading. They allow to understand the second part of the analysis, which is more detailed and precise. It focuses on every area of the personality and provides a synthesis of all the above-mentioned parameters according to sound hierarchical rules.

Warning: when the birth time is unknown, which is the case for Jean-Marc Nattier, a few paragraphs become irrelevant; distributions in hemispheres and quadrants are meaningless, so are dominant houses and houses' accentuations. Therefore, some chapters are removed from this part.

For all paragraphs, the criteria for valuation are calculated without taking into account angles and rulerships of the Ascendant and of the Midheaven. The methodology retains its validity, but it is less precise without a time of birth.

Elements and Modes for Jean-Marc Nattier

The Four Elements for Jean-Marc Nattier: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

The predominance of Water signs indicates high sensitivity and elevation through feelings, Jean-Marc Nattier. Your heart and your emotions are your driving forces, and you can't do anything on Earth if you don't feel a strong affective charge (as a matter of fact, the word "feeling" is essential in your psychology). You need to love in order to understand, and to feel in order to take action, which causes a certain vulnerability which you should fight against.

Jean-Marc Nattier, Fire is dominant in your natal chart and endows you with intuition, energy, courage, self-confidence, and enthusiasm! You are inclined to be passionate, you assert your willpower, you move forward, and come hell or high water, you achieve your dreams and your goals. The relative weakness of this element is the difficulty to step back or a kind of boldness that may prompt you to do foolish things.

Air is under-represented in your natal chart, with only 6.93% instead of the average 25%. Air symbolizes the values of communication, exchanges with others, but also adaptability and flexibility abilities: if you don't get out of your cocoon to talk, to show interest in others, and to socialize, you may have problems understanding others. Because of your lack of flexibility or of your refusal to adapt yourself, you may be suddenly overwhelmed by events. You should get into the habit of talking, of phoning, and of thinking in terms of "mobility, flexibility, adaptability, change" in every circumstance. It will spare you so many troubles!

The twelve zodiacal signs are split up into three groups or modes, called quadruplicities, a learned word meaning only that these three groups include four signs. The Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable modes are more or less represented in your natal chart, depending on planets' positions and importance, and on angles in the twelve signs.

The Three Modes for Jean-Marc Nattier: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

The Mutable mode is the most emphasized one in your natal chart, Jean-Marc Nattier, which indicates a mobile character that is curious and thirsty for new experiences and evolution. You are lively and flexible, and you like to react quickly to solicitations, but don't confuse mobility with agitation, since this is the danger with this configuration - and with you, stagnation is out of the question. Security doesn't matter as long as you are not bored. You optimize, you change things, you change yourself... all this in a speedy way.

Dominants: Planets, Signs and Houses for Jean-Marc Nattier

The issue of dominant planets has existed since the mists of time in astrology: how nice it would be if a person could be described with a few words and one or several planets that would represent their character, without having to analyse such elements as rulerships, angularities, houses, etc!

The ten planets - the Sun throughout Pluto - are a bit like ten characters in a role-play, each one has its own personality, its own way of acting, its own strengths and weaknesses. They actually represent a classification into ten distinct personalities, and astrologers have always tried to associate one or several dominant planets to a natal chart as well as dominant signs and houses.

Indeed, it is quite the same situation with signs and houses. If planets symbolize characters, signs represent hues - the mental, emotional and physical structures of an individual. The sign in which a planet is posited is like a character whose features are modified according to the place where he lives. In a chart, there are usually one, two or three highlighted signs that allow to rapidly describe its owner.

Regarding astrological houses, the principle is even simpler: the twelve houses correspond to twelve fields of life, and planets tenanting any given house increase that house's importance and highlight all relevant life departments: it may be marriage, work, friendship etc.

In your natal chart, Jean-Marc Nattier, the ten main planets are distributed as follows:

Dominant Planets for Jean-Marc Nattier: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

The three most important planets in your chart are Neptune, Venus and Mars.

With Neptune as one of your three dominant planets, you are a secretive and ambiguous person, often confused or unclear about your own motivations! Indeed, you are endowed with unlimited imagination and inspiration, as well as with an extreme sensibility that may turn you into a psychic or a clairvoyant. On the other hand, your impressionability is such that you may have difficulties in separating what is concrete and solid from illusions or dreams.

A mystic, a visionary or a poet, you daydream, like any Neptunian, and you see what few people only can see, all of this being shrouded in aesthetic mists when you are fired with enthusiasm.

A boundless, infinity-loving man like you is inevitably likely to be more vulnerable and easily hurt because of your acute perception of events. In such cases, you are hit full in the face, and you may sink into gloomy daydreamings and dark melancholy.

That said, this mysterious aura definitely gives you an indefinable charm in the eyes of your close friends who are often fascinated by your unique ability to feel and to see what ordinary people can never see!

With Venus among your dominant planets, one of your first reflexes is... to please! Your look, your charm, and your seduction are omnipresent elements in your behaviour.

Your approach to things is connected to your heart, and for you, no real communication can flow if your interlocutors exude no sympathy or warmth. Cold and logical reasoning, clear thoughts and good sense are not important to you: if there is no affective bond with your environment, no connection can be established with the Venusian that you are, and nothing happens.

You have a strong artistic side, and you never neglect subjective but clear concepts such as pleasure, beauty, and also sensuality. However, sometimes to the detriment of efficiency, durability, logic, and... detachment.

Mars is one of your dominant planets and provides you with its efficient energy and enthusiasm: with a powerful Mars in your chart, action - but also will and ability to undertake - is not an empty word for you. You are active, dynamic, willing to fight, courageous, and you are never afraid to move mountains, even though risks are part of the adventures that you start with determination.

However, your patience is not always up to your boldness and a kind of feverishness, or even anger, can tarnish the quality of your achievements. That would be a pity since the Marsian is a champion in matters of efficiency! Mars symbolizes display of action, conquering spirit that favours discipline and order - beware of not being fussy - and lies at the frontier between action and brutality, between conquest and potential aggressiveness.

Dominant Signs for Jean-Marc Nattier: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

In your natal chart, the three most important signs - according to criteria mentioned above - are in decreasing order of strength Pisces, Leo and Sagittarius. In general, these signs are important because your Ascendant or your Sun is located there. But this is not always the case: there may be a cluster of planets, or a planet may be near an angle other than the Midheaven or Ascendant. It may also be because two or three planets are considered to be very active because they form numerous aspects from these signs.

Thus, you display some of the three signs' characteristics, a bit like a superposition of features on the rest of your chart, and it is all the more so if the sign is emphasized.

Pisces is among your dominant signs and endows your personality with unlimited sources of emotions, dreams, imagination, and sensitivity, to the extent that you literally swim in a cloudy ocean of delightful impressions. These impressions are so intense and overwhelming that you don't really need to take action concretely, to show your dynamism or your willpower, since you already live so intensely with your feelings - you are as keen as a radar, always on the alert! That is why some people may not like your carelessness, and the lack of clarity in your opinions or actions; however they quickly notice your artistic talents, your poetic or artistic side, and your total lack of wickedness. Besides, you feel compassion for people in pain - empathy is one of your great qualities. Thanks to your flexibility, your intuition, and your generosity, you may spend an important part of your life helping others. And if you are creative or if you have well-known artistic talents, everybody will forgive your little flaws: absent-mindedness, lack of energy or of will, too dreamy temperament...

With Leo as a dominant sign, you naturally shine brightly. Your dignity, your sense of honour, and your generosity can almost turn you into a solar mythological hero, a knight or a lord from the ancient times. People may blame you for your selfishness, your pride or your somewhat loud authority, but if you are self-confident, kind-hearted and strong-willed, it surely makes up for your little flaws, as long as they remain moderate...

Sagittarius, an adventurous and conquering fire sign, is dominant in your chart: you are enthusiastic, enterprising, optimistic, very sociable, and mobile - you have itchy feet, both physically and mentally. Nobody gets bored with you because you are always planning things and suggesting excursions, at least... when you are around and not already gone on a trip! Obviously, so many movements for one man may scare people off, and some of them may even criticize your brutality or your tendency to loose your temper, but you are so warm and genuine, so expansive, isn't this a good thing? And all the more so, since your sense of humour is overwhelming...

After this paragraph about dominant planets, of Jean-Marc Nattier, here are the character traits that you must read more carefully than the previous texts since they are very specific: the texts about dominant planets only give background information about the personality and remain quite general: they emphasize or, on the contrary, mitigate different particularities or facets of a personality. A human being is a complex whole and only bodies of texts can attempt to successfully figure out all the finer points.

The Moon in Leo: his sensitivity

Recherchant l'attention et l'approbation des autres, vous avez besoin Jean-Marc Nattier d'extérioriser vos émotions, de les interpréter et même de les jouer de façon théâtrale parfois car il est essentiel pour vous d'occuper le devant de la scène et de briller. Vous souhaitez faire toujours plus sinon mieux que les autres et vous vous efforcez donc, quelle que soit la situation, de vous montrer chaleureux, généreux, loyal, honnête, droit et courageux. Vous êtes toujours disponible quand on a besoin de votre aide ou de vos conseils et vous êtes fier et heureux de pouvoir rendre service. Attention toutefois à ne pas trop imposer votre présence légèrement dominatrice ! Vous n'êtes pas toujours indispensable et l'on pourrait vous reprocher de vous comporter de manière quelque peu égocentrique et autoritaire quand vous tentez de prendre les choses en main sans tenir compte de l'avis des personnes qui vous entourent. Il serait dommage de donner de vous cette image alors que, manquant peut-être de confiance en vous, vous cherchez tout simplement à vous rassurer...

Mercury in Pisces: his intellect and social life

Votre pensée Jean-Marc Nattier fonctionne sur un mode plutôt instinctif et intuitif. Vous "ressentez" peut-être plus que vous ne comprenez, comme si votre raisonnement n'intervenait pas vraiment. Votre grande réceptivité et votre empathie naturelle vous rendent compréhensif, sympathique, chaleureux et bienveillant même si vous paraissez parfois quelque peu négligent, voire même insouciant. Facilement timide et anxieux, vous préférez vous effacer et vous isoler dans un lieu calme pour laisser libre cours à votre inspiration plutôt que de vous imposer. Bien que doté d'une vive imagination vous aurez parfois du mal à émerger du flot de vos pensées mystiques et irrationnelles et pourrez vous montrer encore plus inquiet et impressionnable. Apprenez donc à cultiver l'esprit logique et rationnel ainsi que la volonté, vous y gagnerez en confiance en soi et en créativité, vous verrez...

Venus in Pisces and the Sun in Pisces: his affectivity and seductiveness

Dans votre thème, le Soleil et Vénus sont tous deux en Poissons. L'affectivité du Signe des Poissons est traditionnellement déroutante : tout d'abord parce que vos comportements présentent un caractère impénétrable et imprévisible. Les règles du jeu de l'amour ne vous concernent que peu. Du moins revendiquez-vous vos propres règles ! Loin des conformismes de tous bords, vous aimez -ou n'aimez pas- selon des critères qui pourront sembler à d'autres insignifiants. Déroutante aussi, votre affectivité, par le détachement dont vous faites preuve parfois. Votre coeur ne se laisse pas emprisonner. Que l'être aimé se montre à la hauteur, et vous êtes susceptible de vous donner de manière quasi absolue. Mais lorsqu'on vous déçoit, vous semblez alors capable de la plus totale indifférence, du plus radical détachement qui soit. Peut-être au fond ne perdez-vous jamais tout à fait de vue l'éventualité de la fin d'une aventure, aussi exaltante soit-elle. Non par pessimisme, mais plutôt par lucidité. Vous savez d'ailleurs provoquer et gérer les ruptures -lorsqu'il le faut- ou prendre une distance vis-à-vis d'une relation boiteuse. Votre soif d'absolu, on le voit, se satisfait mal d'à peu près... Si votre partenaire respecte la subtilité - la fragilité - de votre univers affectif, vous pouvez en revanche faire preuve d'un dévouement sans faille, de renoncement ou d'abnégation. Influençable, vous devenez littéralement l'autre, formant ainsi un couple plus que complice : gémellaire, unique !

La compassion et le don de vous-même : c'est sur ce mode romanesque que vous aimez et que vous souhaitez exprimer vos sentiments dont l'intensité en réalité n'a pas de limite, Jean-Marc Nattier. Avec exaltation et imagination vous rêvez autant que vous vivez vos relations amoureuses et la frontière entre le concret et vos espérances immenses est si ténue que vous ne savez plus vous-même parfois où elle se trouve, encore que votre sensualité particulièrement riche vous pousse à vivre concrètement ce que vous ressentez. Vous cherchez la communion et la passion avec votre partenaire et les envolées lyriques de vos sentiments déferlent de votre coeur par vagues sans que vous ne puissiez les contrôler, d'ailleurs vous n'en avez aucune envie car elles vous procurent une joie réelle presque voluptueuse et charnelle. Vous donnez beaucoup - parfois trop - et vous vous donnez vous-même entièrement, presque sans pudeur, livrant totalement votre vulnérabilité dans vos échanges amoureux parce que vous êtes sûr de la qualité et de la puissance de vos sentiments : ils sont si puissants et si envahissants que vous êtes certain qu'aucune barrière ne peut leur résister.

The Sun in Pisces: his will and inner motivations

Mars in Sagittarius: his ability to take action

Jean-Marc Nattier, vous êtes une force de la nature et vous excellez souvent sur le plan sportif ; vous avez soif de conquêtes et vous vous lancez des défis de façon presque permanente. L'enthousiasme dont vous faites preuve dans toutes vos entreprises est parfaitement soutenu par vos conceptions morales et un idéalisme compatible avec les valeurs de la société dans laquelle vous vivez. Pragmatique, entreprenant mais parfois un peu naïf, vous ne vous souciez guère des détails et vous lancez dans de grands projets variés et aventureux où vous avez toutes les chances de parvenir à vos objectifs. Dans certains cas plus rares, vous pouvez canaliser votre grande énergie vers des voies plus philosophiques voire même spirituelles ou religieuses où toute votre fougue fera également merveille. Sur le plan sexuel, votre ardeur et votre spontanéité font merveille et le danger réside peut-être dans une certaine dispersion dans la mesure où vous pouvez oublier un peu toute notion de fidélité, notamment au cours de vos nombreux voyages lointains dont vous êtes si friand.

Conclusion

This text is only an excerpt from the portrait of of Jean-Marc Nattier, which we hope will inspire you to deepen your knowledge of astrology.

Since the birth time is unknown,, these portrait excerpts do not take into account the parameters derived from the time, which means, the domification (Ascendant, astrological houses, etc.). Nonetheless, these analyses remain accurate in any case.

Regarding the sources of the birth data in our possession, kindly note that the pages we publish constitute a starting point for more detailed research, even though they seem useful to us. When the sources are contradictory, which occurs rarely, after having analysed them, we choose the most reliable one. Sometimes, we publish a birth date just because it is made available, but we do not claim that is it the best one, by no means.