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Bae Yong Joon: Astrological Article and Chart

You will find below the horoscope of Bae Yong Joon with his interactive chart, an excerpt of his astrological portrait and his planetary dominants.

Bae Yong Joon
Date of birth
Tuesday, August 29, 1972 (time unknown)
City of birth
Seoul (Korea, South)
Virgo
Sagittarius
Taurus
Signs
Jupiter
Saturn
Sun
Planets
Earth
Fire
Elements
Chinese astrological sign
Water Rat
11
Birth Path
Height
5' 11" (1m80) tall
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15,096

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Horoscope and chart of Bae Yong Joon

Astrology chart of Bae Yong Joon Horoscope and birth chart of Bae Yong Joon, born August 29, 1972 (time unknown), Seoul (Korea, South) 55' 16° 07' 29° 33' 33' 28° 31' 25° 17' 47' 19° 32' 20° 04' 18° 11' 52' 57'
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Aries
Taurus
Gemini
Cancer
Leo
Virgo
Libra
Scorpio
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces
Sun 5°52' Virgo
Sun Aspects
Sun conjunction Mars orb 3°05'
Sun trine Moon orb 2°05'
Sun square Neptune orb 3°19'
Sun conjunction Midheaven orb 8°39'
Sun quintile Ascendant orb 0°13'
Sun semi-square Venus orb 0°47'
Sun trine Jupiter orb 7°21'
Moon 3°47' Taurus
Moon Aspects
Sun trine Moon orb 2°05'
Moon trine Jupiter orb 5°15'
Moon trine Mars orb 5°10'
Moon inconjunction Neptune orb 1°13'
Moon trine Midheaven orb 6°33'
Moon semi-square Saturn orb 0°45'
Moon inconjunction Pluto orb 2°51'
Mercury 18°11' Leo
Mercury Aspects
Mercury square Ascendant orb 0°05'
Mercury sextile Saturn orb 1°20'
Mercury sextile Uranus orb 2°04'
Mercury conjunction Midheaven orb 9°01'
Venus 20°04' Cancer
Venus Aspects
Venus trine Ascendant orb 1°58'
Venus square Uranus orb 3°57'
Sun semi-square Venus orb 0°47'
Venus semi-sextile Saturn orb 0°32'
Venus quintile Pluto orb 1°09'
Mars 8°57' Virgo
Mars Aspects
Sun conjunction Mars orb 3°05'
Moon trine Mars orb 5°10'
Mars square Neptune orb 6°24'
Jupiter 28°31' Sagittarius
Jupiter Aspects
Jupiter trine Midheaven orb 1°17'
Jupiter square Pluto orb 2°24'
Moon trine Jupiter orb 5°15'
Sun trine Jupiter orb 7°21'
Jupiter quintile Uranus orb 0°24'
Jupiter opposite Saturn orb 8°58'
Saturn 19°32' Gemini
Saturn Aspects
Mercury sextile Saturn orb 1°20'
Saturn trine Uranus orb 3°25'
Moon semi-square Saturn orb 0°45'
Saturn inconjunction Ascendant orb 1°25'
Venus semi-sextile Saturn orb 0°32'
Jupiter opposite Saturn orb 8°58'
Uranus 16°07' Libra
Uranus Aspects
Saturn trine Uranus orb 3°25'
Mercury sextile Uranus orb 2°04'
Venus square Uranus orb 3°57'
Jupiter quintile Uranus orb 0°24'
Uranus semi-square Neptune orb 1°26'
Neptune 2°33' Sagittarius
Neptune Aspects
Sun square Neptune orb 3°19'
Neptune sextile Pluto orb 1°38'
Moon inconjunction Neptune orb 1°13'
Neptune square Midheaven orb 5°20'
Mars square Neptune orb 6°24'
Uranus semi-square Neptune orb 1°26'
Pluto 0°55' Libra
Pluto Aspects
Jupiter square Pluto orb 2°24'
Neptune sextile Pluto orb 1°38'
Moon inconjunction Pluto orb 2°51'
Venus quintile Pluto orb 1°09'
North Node 25°17' Я Capricorn
Lilith 29°33' Я Libra
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Biography of Bae Yong Joon (excerpt)

Bae Yong-joon (born August 29, 1972 in Seoul, South Korea), is a South Korean actor best known for his roles in numerous television dramas and one of the first kkonminam icons. He is known as Yon-sama (ヨン様) to his Japanese fans.

Early and private life

Born in Mapo-gu, Seoul, he was educated in Il-mun Preschool and Myung-il Elementary School. He eventually went to study in PaiChai Middle School and Hanyoung High School.

Bae Yong-jun acknowledged that he had a girlfriend named Lee Sa-gang (aka Sagan Lee, Sagang Lee, 이사강), and a photograph of her has since been distributed on the Internet. However, according to a 2005 edition of the I-weekly, a MediaCorp owned magazine in Singapore, Bae has since separated from Lee, citing personal reasons.

Astrological portrait of Bae Yong Joon (excerpt)

Disclaimer: these short excerpts of astrological charts are computer processed. They are, by no means, of a personal nature. This principle is valid for the celebrities included in our database. These texts provide the meanings of planets, or combination of planets, in signs and in houses, as well as the interpretations of planetary dominants in line with modern Western astrology rules. Moreover, since Astrotheme is not a polemic website, no negative aspect which may damage the good reputation of a celebrity is posted here, unlike in the comprehensive astrological portrait.

Introduction

Here are some character traits from Bae Yong Joon's birth chart. This description is far from being comprehensive but it can shed light on his/her personality, which is still interesting for professional astrologers or astrology lovers.

N.B.: as this celebrity's birth time is unknown, the chart is arbitrarily calculated for 12:00 PM - the legal time for his/her place of birth; since astrological houses are not taken into account, this astrological profile excerpt is less detailed than those for which the birth time is known.

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The dominant planets of Bae Yong Joon

When interpreting a natal chart, the best method is to start gradually from general features to specific ones. Thus, there is usually a plan to be followed, from the overall analysis of the chart and its structure, to the description of its different character traits.

In the first part, an overall analysis of the chart enables us to figure out the personality's main features and to emphasize several points that are confirmed or not in the detailed analysis: in any case, those general traits are taken into account. Human personality is an infinitely intricate entity and describing it is a complex task. Claiming to rapidly summarize it is illusory, although it does not mean that it is an impossible challenge. It is essential to read a natal chart several times in order to absorb all its different meanings and to grasp all this complexity. But the exercise is worthwhile.

In brief, a natal chart is composed of ten planets: two luminaries, the Sun and the Moon, three fast-moving or individual planets, Mercury, Venus and Mars, two slow-moving planets, Jupiter and Saturn, and three very slow-moving planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Additional secondary elements are: the Lunar Nodes, the Dark Moon or Lilith, Chiron and other minor objects. They are all posited on the Zodiac wheel consisting of twelve signs, from Aries to Pisces, and divided into twelve astrological houses.

The first step is to evaluate the importance of each planet. This is what we call identifying the dominant planets. This process obeys rules that depend on the astrologer's sensitivity and experience but it also has precise and steady bases: thus, we can take into account the parameters of a planet's activity (the number of active aspects a planet forms, the importance of each aspect according to its nature and its exactness), angularity parameters; (proximity to the four angles, Ascendant, Midheaven, Descendant and Imum Coeli or Nadir, all of them being evaluated numerically, according to the kind of angle and the planet-angle distance) and quality parameters (rulership, exaltation, exile and fall). Finally, other criteria such as the rulership of the Ascendant and the Midheaven etc. are important.

These different criteria allow a planet to be highlighted and lead to useful conclusions when interpreting the chart.

The overall chart analysis begins with the observation of three sorts of planetary distributions in the chart: Eastern or Western hemisphere, Northern or Southern hemisphere, and quadrants (North-eastern, North-western, South-eastern and South-western). These three distributions give a general tone in terms of introversion and extraversion, willpower, sociability, and behavioural predispositions.

Then, there are three additional distributions: elements (called triplicity since there are three groups of signs for each one) - Fire, Air, Earth and Water - corresponding to a character typology, modality (or quadruplicity with four groups of signs for each one) - Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable - and polarity (Yin and Yang).

There are three types of dominants: dominant planets, dominant signs and dominant houses. The novice thinks astrology means only "to be Aries" or sometimes, for example, "to be Aries Ascendant Virgo". It is actually far more complex. Although the Sun and the Ascendant alone may reveal a large part of the character - approximately a third or a half of your psychological signature, a person is neither "just the Sun" (called the sign) nor just "the first house" (the Ascendant). Thus, a particular planet's influence may be significantly increased; a particular sign or house may contain a group of planets that will bring nuances and sometimes weaken the role of the Ascendant, of the Sun sign etc.

Lastly, there are two other criteria: accentuations (angular, succedent and cadent) which are a classification of astrological houses and types of decanates that are occupied (each sign is divided into three decanates of ten degrees each). They provide some additional informations.

These general character traits must not be taken literally; they are, somehow, preparing for the chart reading. They allow to understand the second part of the analysis, which is more detailed and precise. It focuses on every area of the personality and provides a synthesis of all the above-mentioned parameters according to sound hierarchical rules.

Warning: when the birth time is unknown, which is the case for Bae Yong Joon, a few paragraphs become irrelevant; distributions in hemispheres and quadrants are meaningless, so are dominant houses and houses' accentuations. Therefore, some chapters are removed from this part.

For all paragraphs, the criteria for valuation are calculated without taking into account angles and rulerships of the Ascendant and of the Midheaven. The methodology retains its validity, but it is less precise without a time of birth.

Elements and Modes for Bae Yong Joon

The Four Elements for Bae Yong Joon: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

Like the majority of Earth signs, Bae Yong Joon, you are efficient, concrete and not too emotional. What matters to you is what you see: you judge the tree by its fruits. Your ideas keep changing, words disappear, but actions and their consequences are visible and remain. Express your sensitivity, even if it means revealing your vulnerability. Emotions, energy and communication must not be neglected; concrete action is meaningless if it is not justified by your heart, your intellect or your enthusiasm.

Bae Yong Joon, Fire is dominant in your natal chart and endows you with intuition, energy, courage, self-confidence, and enthusiasm! You are inclined to be passionate, you assert your willpower, you move forward, and come hell or high water, you achieve your dreams and your goals. The relative weakness of this element is the difficulty to step back or a kind of boldness that may prompt you to do foolish things.

The twelve zodiacal signs are split up into three groups or modes, called quadruplicities, a learned word meaning only that these three groups include four signs. The Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable modes are more or less represented in your natal chart, depending on planets' positions and importance, and on angles in the twelve signs.

The Three Modes for Bae Yong Joon: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

The Mutable mode is the most emphasized one in your natal chart, Bae Yong Joon, which indicates a mobile character that is curious and thirsty for new experiences and evolution. You are lively and flexible, and you like to react quickly to solicitations, but don't confuse mobility with agitation, since this is the danger with this configuration - and with you, stagnation is out of the question. Security doesn't matter as long as you are not bored. You optimize, you change things, you change yourself... all this in a speedy way.

Dominants: Planets, Signs and Houses for Bae Yong Joon

The issue of dominant planets has existed since the mists of time in astrology: how nice it would be if a person could be described with a few words and one or several planets that would represent their character, without having to analyse such elements as rulerships, angularities, houses, etc!

The ten planets - the Sun throughout Pluto - are a bit like ten characters in a role-play, each one has its own personality, its own way of acting, its own strengths and weaknesses. They actually represent a classification into ten distinct personalities, and astrologers have always tried to associate one or several dominant planets to a natal chart as well as dominant signs and houses.

Indeed, it is quite the same situation with signs and houses. If planets symbolize characters, signs represent hues - the mental, emotional and physical structures of an individual. The sign in which a planet is posited is like a character whose features are modified according to the place where he lives. In a chart, there are usually one, two or three highlighted signs that allow to rapidly describe its owner.

Regarding astrological houses, the principle is even simpler: the twelve houses correspond to twelve fields of life, and planets tenanting any given house increase that house's importance and highlight all relevant life departments: it may be marriage, work, friendship etc.

In your natal chart, Bae Yong Joon, the ten main planets are distributed as follows:

Dominant Planets for Bae Yong Joon: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

The three most important planets in your chart are Jupiter, Saturn and the Sun.

Jupiter, the planet of expansion, organization, power and benevolence, is quite emphasized in your chart. Like any Jupiterian, you are warm, open, sociable, consensual, active and optimistic. You can use your self-confidence to erase differences of opinion, and you leave the task of analyzing and perfecting things to specialists. Your role, and you know it since you were young, is to gather, to demonstrate your synthesizing and conciliatory mind, and to naturally reap its fruits - power.

You appreciate legality, social order but also order in general. With you as a leader, every plan or human entity can be organized and structured. You excel at supervising. The Jupiterian type is indeed the politician par excellence, and a positive Jupiter in your chart is synonymous with good integration into society, whatever the chosen path.

Is this idyllic picture really perfect? Certainly not: each planet's typology has its own weaknesses. One of yours is pride, like the Solarian, but your will of expansion at all costs may generate a form of exaggeration in everything, endless pleasure, inappropriate self-confidence that could lead you to rough materialism and the thirst for absurd material comfort - in the worst cases, of course.

Saturn is part of your dominant planets: among the facets of your character, you have a grave and serious side, wise and somewhat severe, since your concentration can be powerful, to the detriment of carelessness and friendliness.

You often look austere, but it is only an appearance, a kind of modesty or reserve; however, it is true that the Saturnian, who is fond of time, effort, asceticism, rigour and sobriety, may have popularity issues. Nevertheless, honesty and straightforwardness, reliability, as well as slow, wise and deep mental process, although not very popular and visible qualities, eventually become noticed and appreciated. Saturnians' second part of life is usually easier and more fulfilling.

Like the Jupiterian, your Saturnian facet prompts you to seek the essential, security, and longevity. However, the difference with the former is that you will never give priority to wealth or "the bigger, the better" philosophy for the sake of power. Saturn, like Jupiter, symbolizes social integration, and it is usually considered positive to have a harmonic Jupiter and Saturn in one's chart because of their social adaptation capacities.

Your vulnerability lies in your too serious and austere side, which may lead to unwanted loneliness and affective frustration. This generally does not last because Saturnians often hide deep down a golden heart that ends up revealing itself...

One of the dominant planets in your natal chart is the Sun. He symbolizes will, magnetism, sense of honour and dignity. You are a Solar being, and you often display charismatic and leadership qualities. Your warmth and your persuasive power lead you far away from pettiness. You enjoy thinking big and, consequently, you move forward according to what you decide.

Your Solarian weakness may be related to the sin of pride or to excessive authority. The frontier between pride and vanity is tenuous: be careful not to overstep it and to keep the nobleness of heart that is part of your charm.

Dominant Signs for Bae Yong Joon: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

In your natal chart, the three most important signs - according to criteria mentioned above - are in decreasing order of strength Virgo, Sagittarius and Taurus. In general, these signs are important because your Ascendant or your Sun is located there. But this is not always the case: there may be a cluster of planets, or a planet may be near an angle other than the Midheaven or Ascendant. It may also be because two or three planets are considered to be very active because they form numerous aspects from these signs.

Thus, you display some of the three signs' characteristics, a bit like a superposition of features on the rest of your chart, and it is all the more so if the sign is emphasized.

Virgo, associated with perfectionism, numbers and reason, is among your dominant signs: you inherit its sense of responsibility and tidiness, a clear mind, an unfailing logic, as well as a need to be useful and to fulfil your task to the best of your abilities. Obviously, people may think that you are too modest or reserved, suspicious or pessimistic because of your exceedingly critical mind, but aren't logic and wisdom great qualities? Of course, they are. Moreover, you keep your feet on the ground, you never behave irrationally and you are helpful and hardworking - what more can you ask for?!

Sagittarius, an adventurous and conquering fire sign, is dominant in your chart: you are enthusiastic, enterprising, optimistic, very sociable, and mobile - you have itchy feet, both physically and mentally. Nobody gets bored with you because you are always planning things and suggesting excursions, at least... when you are around and not already gone on a trip! Obviously, so many movements for one man may scare people off, and some of them may even criticize your brutality or your tendency to loose your temper, but you are so warm and genuine, so expansive, isn't this a good thing? And all the more so, since your sense of humour is overwhelming...

With the Taurus sign so important in your chart, you are constructive, stable, and sensual. Good taste, sense of beauty, manners, and unfailing good sense - all these qualities contribute to your charm and seductive power. Furthermore, if some people criticize your slow pace and your stubbornness, you rightly reply that this is the price for your security, and that you like the way it is - slow and steady....

After this paragraph about dominant planets, of Bae Yong Joon, here are the character traits that you must read more carefully than the previous texts since they are very specific: the texts about dominant planets only give background information about the personality and remain quite general: they emphasize or, on the contrary, mitigate different particularities or facets of a personality. A human being is a complex whole and only bodies of texts can attempt to successfully figure out all the finer points.

The Moon in Taurus: his sensitivity

Amoureux de la nature tout autant que de votre confort, vous êtes Bae Yong Joon, un épicurien désireux de profiter des belles et bonnes choses de la vie au sein d'un "clan" familial ou amical qui apprécie votre convivialité et votre amabilité. Fidèle, stable, les pieds sur terre, vous êtes quelqu'un sur qui l'on peut compter en toute circonstance. Attaché à votre sécurité affective et matérielle, la jalousie et la possessivité ne vous sont pas étrangères et vous pouvez, bien que de nature plutôt lente, vous montrer très rapidement colérique et agressif lorsque vous vous sentez menacé dans ces domaines. Vous ferez alors preuve d'un entêtement et d'une fureur rares et l'on aura bien du mal à vous faire changer d'avis. Même si vous êtes conscient que votre attitude n'est pas réellement adaptée, vous camperez sur vos positions et garderez une rancune tenace. Vous êtes cependant si sensible à la tendresse et aux marques concrètes d'affection qu'avec quelques cadeaux ou câlins, vous finirez bien par revoir tout en rose...

Mercury in Leo: his intellect and social life

Vous avez Bae Yong Joon une énergie intellectuelle et nerveuse considérable, un bon pouvoir de concentration et une grande détermination. Ne manquant ni de qualités de planification et d'organisation ni d'enthousiasme, vous vous montrez d'une grande serviabilité pour aider à résoudre les problèmes d'autrui et êtes considéré comme une personne sur laquelle on peut compter, ce qui n'est pas pour vous déplaire. En effet, une grande confiance en vos capacités vous anime et vous avez parfois tendance à parler de façon quelque peu exagérée ou théâtrale afin d'attirer l'attention sur vous. Et gare à celui qui ne partagerait pas vos opinions ! Plus que déterminé, vous saurez alors vous montrer entêté et inflexible car vous n'admettrez pas facilement que l'on trouve à redire sur vos idées ou réalisations. Certains pourraient y voir une manière autoritaire de s'imposer avec même parfois une légère condescendance, mais cela, vous n'en serez pas conscient et continuerez donc de penser que vous avez raison.

Venus in Cancer and the Sun in Virgo: his affectivity and seductiveness

Dans votre thème, le Soleil est en Vierge, Vénus en Cancer. Les Signes de la Vierge et du Cancer ont en commun d'induire une certaine sélectivité. On exprime un désir de protection, une volonté de limiter sa vie affective à ce qu'on connaît, à ce qui nous est familier. Il y a chez vous une forme de pudeur, de distance, de réserve... Pourtant, le duo Soleil-Vénus souligne deux manières d'être à bien des égards différentes, sinon opposées : alors qu'avec le Soleil en Vierge, vous accordez une importance particulière à la maîtrise des situations, la Vénus Cancer se montre plus intimiste, plus naturelle peut-être : avec elle, seul importe le ressenti, l'émotion. Comment alors vivre un romantisme raisonnable ? Sensible sans aucun doute, voire fragile, vous ne dévoilez cependant que rarement votre nature impressionnable. Mieux vaut se garder d'afficher sa vulnérabilité ! Le risque d'une telle configuration est sans doute de vous laisser aller à une susceptibilité outrancière, d'autant plus marquée qu'elle ne sera que peu extériorisée. Votre partenaire devra ainsi faire la démarche de vous comprendre, faute de quoi la relation risque fort de devenir dialogue de sourds. On appréciera en revanche l'extrême subtilité de votre ressenti, ainsi que l'attachement sans faille à ceux ou celles qui sont devenus vos familiers. Mais gare à qui se montre avec vous trop pressé ou trop impatient de vous découvrir. On ne se dévoile qu'avec le temps et la confiance.

Bae Yong Joon, vous êtes à la fois sensible, vulnérable et tendre. Quand vous aimez, c'est avec toute votre affection et c'est en toute confiance que votre partenaire peut s'abandonner dans une relation durable et sécurisante avec vous. Vous êtes si tranquille et tendre que vous pensez que cela suffit à gagner le coeur de votre partenaire, et vous avez souvent raison. Mais surtout, ne confondez pas donner et recevoir, vous avez tant besoin d'être aimé en retour que vous risquez d'être parfois un peu passif et à force d'être un peu exigeant, vous pouvez montrer un peu d'immaturité. La sécurité et la durée de la relation sont primordiales pour vous ainsi que  votre famille, qui est un refuge et même presque un sanctuaire où vous aimez vous cacher quand rien ne va plus. Vous rêvez aussi beaucoup d'amour, peut-être même trop, au détriment de ce que vous pourriez vivre concrètement si vous étiez un peu plus dynamique ou moins craintif d'être blessé mais rappelez-vous que l'on ne reçoit que si l'on donne.

The Sun in Virgo: his will and inner motivations

Mars in Virgo: his ability to take action

Bae Yong Joon, vous savez à merveille utiliser votre énergie telle une flèche qui atteint sa cible avec précision : vous avez un oeil de lynx et l'acuité de votre esprit vous porte à agir avec méticulosité et efficacité. Comme un chirurgien avec son scalpel, vous savez exactement ce que vous souhaitez faire et vous faites évidemment partie des spécialistes et non des généralistes. Critique, pointilleux, extrêmement organisé, vous aimez prévoir et analyser, préférez maîtriser trop votre sujet que pas assez, même si vous devez y mettre le prix d'un effort soutenu et durable. Sexuellement, vous gardez un certain souci maniaque de la propreté et êtes souvent prédisposé à certains fantasmes de type fétichiste. Votre vie amoureuse se passe généralement très bien si vous évitez les imprévus dont vous avez horreur.

Conclusion

This text is only an excerpt from the portrait of of Bae Yong Joon, which we hope will inspire you to deepen your knowledge of astrology.

Since the birth time is unknown,, these portrait excerpts do not take into account the parameters derived from the time, which means, the domification (Ascendant, astrological houses, etc.). Nonetheless, these analyses remain accurate in any case.

Regarding the sources of the birth data in our possession, kindly note that the pages we publish constitute a starting point for more detailed research, even though they seem useful to us. When the sources are contradictory, which occurs rarely, after having analysed them, we choose the most reliable one. Sometimes, we publish a birth date just because it is made available, but we do not claim that is it the best one, by no means.