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Roger de Bussy-Rabutin: Astrological Article and Chart

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Roger de Bussy-Rabutin
Date of birth
Friday, April 13, 1618 (time unknown)
City of birth
Saint-Émiland (71) (France)
Aries
Sagittarius
Aquarius
Signs
Mars
Moon
Saturn
Planets
Fire
Air
Elements
6
Birth Path
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9,405

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Horoscope and chart of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin

Astrology chart of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin Horoscope and birth chart of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, born April 13, 1618 (time unknown), Saint-Émiland (71) (France) 35' 52' 15' 12' 29° 56' 27° 25' 16° 29' 19° 38' 23° 22' 40' 23° 05' 15° 01'
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Aries
Taurus
Gemini
Cancer
Leo
Virgo
Libra
Scorpio
Sagittarius
Capricorn
Aquarius
Pisces
Sun 23°22' Aries
Sun Aspects
Sun conjunction Midheaven orb 0°08'
Sun conjunction Mars orb 3°43'
Sun conjunction Venus orb 6°52'
Sun semi-sextile Saturn orb 0°16'
Moon 1°15' Sagittarius
Moon Aspects
Moon square Jupiter orb 1°19'
Moon sesqui-quadrate Venus orb 0°13'
Moon trine Mercury orb 3°50'
Moon opposite Saturn orb 8°09'
Moon sesqui-quadrate Uranus orb 1°14'
Moon sextile Neptune orb 4°20'
Moon trine Ascendant orb 8°03'
Mercury 27°25' Pisces
Mercury Aspects
Moon trine Mercury orb 3°50'
Mercury sextile Saturn orb 4°19'
Mercury opposite Neptune orb 8°10'
Venus 16°29' Aries
Venus Aspects
Venus conjunction Mars orb 3°09'
Sun conjunction Venus orb 6°52'
Venus square Uranus orb 1°28'
Venus conjunction Midheaven orb 6°44'
Moon sesqui-quadrate Venus orb 0°13'
Venus trine Ascendant orb 7°10'
Mars 19°38' Aries
Mars Aspects
Sun conjunction Mars orb 3°43'
Mars conjunction Midheaven orb 3°35'
Venus conjunction Mars orb 3°09'
Mars square Uranus orb 4°37'
Jupiter 29°56' Aquarius
Jupiter Aspects
Moon square Jupiter orb 1°19'
Jupiter sesqui-quadrate Uranus orb 0°05'
Jupiter bi-quintile Neptune orb 0°20'
Jupiter square Saturn orb 6°50'
Saturn 23°05' Taurus
Saturn Aspects
Sun semi-sextile Saturn orb 0°16'
Saturn semi-sextile Midheaven orb 0°07'
Moon opposite Saturn orb 8°09'
Mercury sextile Saturn orb 4°19'
Jupiter square Saturn orb 6°50'
Uranus 15°01' Cancer
Uranus Aspects
Venus square Uranus orb 1°28'
Mars square Uranus orb 4°37'
Jupiter sesqui-quadrate Uranus orb 0°05'
Moon sesqui-quadrate Uranus orb 1°14'
Uranus sextile Pluto orb 5°21'
Neptune 5°35' Я Libra
Neptune Aspects
Moon sextile Neptune orb 4°20'
Neptune sextile Ascendant orb 3°42'
Jupiter bi-quintile Neptune orb 0°20'
Mercury opposite Neptune orb 8°10'
Pluto 9°40' Taurus
Pluto Aspects
Pluto square Ascendant orb 0°21'
Uranus sextile Pluto orb 5°21'
North Node 8°12' Я Aquarius
Lilith 9°52' Scorpio
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Biography of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin (excerpt)

Roger de Rabutin, Comte de Bussy (April 13, 1618 - April 9, 1693), commonly known as Bussy-Rabutin, was a French memoir-writer. He was the cousin and frequent correspondent of Madame de Sévigné.

Born at Epiry, near Autun, he represented a family of distinction in Burgundy, and his father, Léonor de Rabutin, was lieutenant general of the province of Nivernais.

Roger was the third son, but by the death of his elder brothers became the representative of the family. He entered the army when he was only sixteen and fought through several campaigns, succeeding his father in the office of mestre de camp. He tells us himself that his two ambitions were to become "honnête homme" and to distinguish himself in arms, but the luck was against him.

Astrological portrait of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin (excerpt)

Disclaimer: these short excerpts of astrological charts are computer processed. They are, by no means, of a personal nature. This principle is valid for the celebrities included in our database. These texts provide the meanings of planets, or combination of planets, in signs and in houses, as well as the interpretations of planetary dominants in line with modern Western astrology rules. Moreover, since Astrotheme is not a polemic website, no negative aspect which may damage the good reputation of a celebrity is posted here, unlike in the comprehensive astrological portrait.

Introduction

Here are some character traits from Roger de Bussy-Rabutin's birth chart. This description is far from being comprehensive but it can shed light on his/her personality, which is still interesting for professional astrologers or astrology lovers.

N.B.: as this celebrity's birth time is unknown, the chart is arbitrarily calculated for 12:00 PM - the legal time for his/her place of birth; since astrological houses are not taken into account, this astrological profile excerpt is less detailed than those for which the birth time is known.

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The dominant planets of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin

When interpreting a natal chart, the best method is to start gradually from general features to specific ones. Thus, there is usually a plan to be followed, from the overall analysis of the chart and its structure, to the description of its different character traits.

In the first part, an overall analysis of the chart enables us to figure out the personality's main features and to emphasize several points that are confirmed or not in the detailed analysis: in any case, those general traits are taken into account. Human personality is an infinitely intricate entity and describing it is a complex task. Claiming to rapidly summarize it is illusory, although it does not mean that it is an impossible challenge. It is essential to read a natal chart several times in order to absorb all its different meanings and to grasp all this complexity. But the exercise is worthwhile.

In brief, a natal chart is composed of ten planets: two luminaries, the Sun and the Moon, three fast-moving or individual planets, Mercury, Venus and Mars, two slow-moving planets, Jupiter and Saturn, and three very slow-moving planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Additional secondary elements are: the Lunar Nodes, the Dark Moon or Lilith, Chiron and other minor objects. They are all posited on the Zodiac wheel consisting of twelve signs, from Aries to Pisces, and divided into twelve astrological houses.

The first step is to evaluate the importance of each planet. This is what we call identifying the dominant planets. This process obeys rules that depend on the astrologer's sensitivity and experience but it also has precise and steady bases: thus, we can take into account the parameters of a planet's activity (the number of active aspects a planet forms, the importance of each aspect according to its nature and its exactness), angularity parameters; (proximity to the four angles, Ascendant, Midheaven, Descendant and Imum Coeli or Nadir, all of them being evaluated numerically, according to the kind of angle and the planet-angle distance) and quality parameters (rulership, exaltation, exile and fall). Finally, other criteria such as the rulership of the Ascendant and the Midheaven etc. are important.

These different criteria allow a planet to be highlighted and lead to useful conclusions when interpreting the chart.

The overall chart analysis begins with the observation of three sorts of planetary distributions in the chart: Eastern or Western hemisphere, Northern or Southern hemisphere, and quadrants (North-eastern, North-western, South-eastern and South-western). These three distributions give a general tone in terms of introversion and extraversion, willpower, sociability, and behavioural predispositions.

Then, there are three additional distributions: elements (called triplicity since there are three groups of signs for each one) - Fire, Air, Earth and Water - corresponding to a character typology, modality (or quadruplicity with four groups of signs for each one) - Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable - and polarity (Yin and Yang).

There are three types of dominants: dominant planets, dominant signs and dominant houses. The novice thinks astrology means only "to be Aries" or sometimes, for example, "to be Aries Ascendant Virgo". It is actually far more complex. Although the Sun and the Ascendant alone may reveal a large part of the character - approximately a third or a half of your psychological signature, a person is neither "just the Sun" (called the sign) nor just "the first house" (the Ascendant). Thus, a particular planet's influence may be significantly increased; a particular sign or house may contain a group of planets that will bring nuances and sometimes weaken the role of the Ascendant, of the Sun sign etc.

Lastly, there are two other criteria: accentuations (angular, succedent and cadent) which are a classification of astrological houses and types of decanates that are occupied (each sign is divided into three decanates of ten degrees each). They provide some additional informations.

These general character traits must not be taken literally; they are, somehow, preparing for the chart reading. They allow to understand the second part of the analysis, which is more detailed and precise. It focuses on every area of the personality and provides a synthesis of all the above-mentioned parameters according to sound hierarchical rules.

Warning: when the birth time is unknown, which is the case for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, a few paragraphs become irrelevant; distributions in hemispheres and quadrants are meaningless, so are dominant houses and houses' accentuations. Therefore, some chapters are removed from this part.

For all paragraphs, the criteria for valuation are calculated without taking into account angles and rulerships of the Ascendant and of the Midheaven. The methodology retains its validity, but it is less precise without a time of birth.

Elements and Modes for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin

The Four Elements for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, Fire is dominant in your natal chart and endows you with intuition, energy, courage, self-confidence, and enthusiasm! You are inclined to be passionate, you assert your willpower, you move forward, and come hell or high water, you achieve your dreams and your goals. The relative weakness of this element is the difficulty to step back or a kind of boldness that may prompt you to do foolish things.

Cheers for communication and mobility, Roger de Bussy-Rabutin! The predominance of Air signs in your chart favours and amplifies your taste for relations and for all kinds of short trips, whether real (travels) or symbolic (new ideas, mind speculations). You gain in flexibility and adaptability what you lose in self-assertion or in pragmatism.

Earth qualities are under-represented in your chart, with only 9.95% instead of the average 25%. Deficiency in Earth may indicate that you have no interest in material and concrete values. It is likely that you live too much in your heart or in your mind, or even in your enthusiasm! The fact remains that you may end up in tricky situations, due to your lack of good sense or forethought: material life is unavoidable even if you are rather idealistic, dreamy, or easily content. You must tackle concrete life necessities, for fear of... being forced to cope with them, later, in much more unpleasant ways!

The twelve zodiacal signs are split up into three groups or modes, called quadruplicities, a learned word meaning only that these three groups include four signs. The Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable modes are more or less represented in your natal chart, depending on planets' positions and importance, and on angles in the twelve signs.

The Three Modes for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, the Cardinal mode is dominant here and indicates a predisposition to action, and more exactly, to impulsion and to undertake: you are very keen to implement the plans you have in mind, to get things going and to create them. This is the most important aspect that inspires enthusiasm and adrenalin in you, without which you can grow weary rapidly. You are individualistic (maybe too much?) and assertive. You let others strengthen and improve the constructions which you built with fervour.

Dominants: Planets, Signs and Houses for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin

The issue of dominant planets has existed since the mists of time in astrology: how nice it would be if a person could be described with a few words and one or several planets that would represent their character, without having to analyse such elements as rulerships, angularities, houses, etc!

The ten planets - the Sun throughout Pluto - are a bit like ten characters in a role-play, each one has its own personality, its own way of acting, its own strengths and weaknesses. They actually represent a classification into ten distinct personalities, and astrologers have always tried to associate one or several dominant planets to a natal chart as well as dominant signs and houses.

Indeed, it is quite the same situation with signs and houses. If planets symbolize characters, signs represent hues - the mental, emotional and physical structures of an individual. The sign in which a planet is posited is like a character whose features are modified according to the place where he lives. In a chart, there are usually one, two or three highlighted signs that allow to rapidly describe its owner.

Regarding astrological houses, the principle is even simpler: the twelve houses correspond to twelve fields of life, and planets tenanting any given house increase that house's importance and highlight all relevant life departments: it may be marriage, work, friendship etc.

In your natal chart, Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, the ten main planets are distributed as follows:

Dominant Planets for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

The three most important planets in your chart are Mars, the Moon and Saturn.

Mars is one of your dominant planets and provides you with its efficient energy and enthusiasm: with a powerful Mars in your chart, action - but also will and ability to undertake - is not an empty word for you. You are active, dynamic, willing to fight, courageous, and you are never afraid to move mountains, even though risks are part of the adventures that you start with determination.

However, your patience is not always up to your boldness and a kind of feverishness, or even anger, can tarnish the quality of your achievements. That would be a pity since the Marsian is a champion in matters of efficiency! Mars symbolizes display of action, conquering spirit that favours discipline and order - beware of not being fussy - and lies at the frontier between action and brutality, between conquest and potential aggressiveness.

The Moon is one of the most important planets in your chart and endows you with a receptive, emotive, and imaginative nature. You have an innate ability to instinctively absorb atmospheres and impressions that nurture you, and as a result, you are often dreaming your life away rather than actually living it.

One of the consequences of your spontaneity may turn into popularity, or even fame: the crowd is a living and complex entity, and it always appreciates truth and sincerity rather than calculation and total self-control.

As a Lunar character, you find it difficult to control yourself, you have to deal with your moods, and you must be careful not to stay passive in front of events: nothing is handed on a plate, and although your sensitivity is rich, even richer than most people's, you must make a move and spare some of your energy for... action!

Saturn is part of your dominant planets: among the facets of your character, you have a grave and serious side, wise and somewhat severe, since your concentration can be powerful, to the detriment of carelessness and friendliness.

You often look austere, but it is only an appearance, a kind of modesty or reserve; however, it is true that the Saturnian, who is fond of time, effort, asceticism, rigour and sobriety, may have popularity issues. Nevertheless, honesty and straightforwardness, reliability, as well as slow, wise and deep mental process, although not very popular and visible qualities, eventually become noticed and appreciated. Saturnians' second part of life is usually easier and more fulfilling.

Like the Jupiterian, your Saturnian facet prompts you to seek the essential, security, and longevity. However, the difference with the former is that you will never give priority to wealth or "the bigger, the better" philosophy for the sake of power. Saturn, like Jupiter, symbolizes social integration, and it is usually considered positive to have a harmonic Jupiter and Saturn in one's chart because of their social adaptation capacities.

Your vulnerability lies in your too serious and austere side, which may lead to unwanted loneliness and affective frustration. This generally does not last because Saturnians often hide deep down a golden heart that ends up revealing itself...

Dominant Signs for Roger de Bussy-Rabutin: Astrology, Free Horoscope, Planets, Dominant Planets, Natal Chart

In your natal chart, the three most important signs - according to criteria mentioned above - are in decreasing order of strength Aries, Sagittarius and Aquarius. In general, these signs are important because your Ascendant or your Sun is located there. But this is not always the case: there may be a cluster of planets, or a planet may be near an angle other than the Midheaven or Ascendant. It may also be because two or three planets are considered to be very active because they form numerous aspects from these signs.

Thus, you display some of the three signs' characteristics, a bit like a superposition of features on the rest of your chart, and it is all the more so if the sign is emphasized.

Arian blood runs through your veins! You have that enthusiasm, frankness, courage, and fastness which usually make you so likeable in spite of your somewhat rough, naive, or violent side. As a bonus, Aries' gushing fire always gives you the impetus to make a fresh start, should you stumble or undergo life hardship!

Sagittarius, an adventurous and conquering fire sign, is dominant in your chart: you are enthusiastic, enterprising, optimistic, very sociable, and mobile - you have itchy feet, both physically and mentally. Nobody gets bored with you because you are always planning things and suggesting excursions, at least... when you are around and not already gone on a trip! Obviously, so many movements for one man may scare people off, and some of them may even criticize your brutality or your tendency to loose your temper, but you are so warm and genuine, so expansive, isn't this a good thing? And all the more so, since your sense of humour is overwhelming...

Aquarius is one of the most important signs in your natal chart: it endows your personality - at least one of its facets - with originality, to the point of eccentricity, in spite of a sometimes distant and humane side. Likeable and impassive at the same time, you are a paradoxical man, very hard to define because the two planets Uranus and Saturn blend their qualities to create the so complicated and endearing sign that inspires your character. Saturn's seriousness and impassivity is added to Uranus' rebellion, talent, individualism, charisma, extravagance, and unpredictability! One of your main characteristics is that you never open up on a personal basis, but you tend to do so easily in public. You are actually quite strange. Sexy and charming in public, despite your nice and sociable character, you could frustrate many of your admirers in private because of your impossibility to show deep and warm affection, emotions, tears... But appearance and reality are two different things anyway - you are a kind of a genius, or you have at least a tremendous charm with this sign. You have many friends and an active social life. If you are detached in your love life - only in this aspect, since the rest of chart will confirm it or not - this is no big deal!

After this paragraph about dominant planets, of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, here are the character traits that you must read more carefully than the previous texts since they are very specific: the texts about dominant planets only give background information about the personality and remain quite general: they emphasize or, on the contrary, mitigate different particularities or facets of a personality. A human being is a complex whole and only bodies of texts can attempt to successfully figure out all the finer points.

The Moon in Sagittarius: his sensitivity

D'une nature optimiste et émotive, vous êtes, Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, pris entre deux envies quelque peu incompatibles : vous êtes friand d'exotisme et d'indépendance, de mouvement, mais en même temps vous vous sentez bien dans une forme d'embourgeoisement et de conformisme de votre comportement ; en général, cela se traduit par une succession d'états d'âme tantôt tranquilles et bien adaptés aux différentes situations que vous rencontrez, tantôt empreints d'une envie irrésistible de changement et de renouveau. Plutôt d'une nature bon enfant presque naïve, vous avez confiance en vous et votre grande émotivité vous pousse à vivre intensément et avec variété des expériences émotionnelles d'une façon un peu dispersée mais qui, de toute façon, vous amènent les stimulations dont vous avez besoin pour être équilibré. Grâce à cette  attitude plutôt sympathique et avenante, vous bénéficiez d'une certaine popularité et cela d'autant plus que malgré votre soif d'aventures qui pourrait en effaroucher d'aucuns, vous vous adaptez aisément aux règles et usages du milieu dans lequel vous évoluez.

Mercury in Pisces: his intellect and social life

Votre pensée Roger de Bussy-Rabutin fonctionne sur un mode plutôt instinctif et intuitif. Vous "ressentez" peut-être plus que vous ne comprenez, comme si votre raisonnement n'intervenait pas vraiment. Votre grande réceptivité et votre empathie naturelle vous rendent compréhensif, sympathique, chaleureux et bienveillant même si vous paraissez parfois quelque peu négligent, voire même insouciant. Facilement timide et anxieux, vous préférez vous effacer et vous isoler dans un lieu calme pour laisser libre cours à votre inspiration plutôt que de vous imposer. Bien que doté d'une vive imagination vous aurez parfois du mal à émerger du flot de vos pensées mystiques et irrationnelles et pourrez vous montrer encore plus inquiet et impressionnable. Apprenez donc à cultiver l'esprit logique et rationnel ainsi que la volonté, vous y gagnerez en confiance en soi et en créativité, vous verrez...

Venus in Aries and the Sun in Aries: his affectivity and seductiveness

Dans votre thème, le Soleil et Vénus sont tous deux en Bélier. L'amour est un éternel recommencement... Bélier jusqu'aux bouts des ongles, vous êtes sensible aux sollicitations nouvelles, à la fraîcheur d'une première fois, aux rencontres ou aux situations inédites. Même lorsque votre couple a atteint une certaine longévité ! Vous savez en effet mieux que d'autres renouveler les sentiments amoureux, réinventer la passion des premiers instants. C'est du reste une nécessité pour vous que de créer ou recréer périodiquement un climat de fougue, de découverte et d'exaltation. Le risque est bien sûr de se heurter à la nécessaire inertie d'une vie commune, d'être en porte à faux avec les vicissitudes du quotidien. Voire, parfois, de ne pouvoir supporter la lente et inexorable usure de l'amour. Avec le temps, tout s'en va... Mais vous refusez de vous laisser envahir par l'érosion. Au point de provoquer tempêtes et tumultes divers s'il le faut ! La spontanéité dont vous faites preuve séduit et fatigue parfois. Difficile de rassasier la soif d'émotions dont votre affectivité se nourrit pourtant ! On l'aura compris, votre vie sentimentale ne peut être terne : exaltant ou inexistant, fort ou absent, l'amour se doit de conserver le caractère entier et combien exaltant d'une première fois. Les clés d'une relation durable résident alors dans la capacité de trouver à deux les moyens de réinventer le choc initial, le coup de foudre du premier jour.

Coup de foudre, feu de paille, impulsivité amoureuse ? Tout cela représente votre façon d'aimer Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, ou plutôt de tomber amoureux et de garder tout au long de votre relation cette sorte de ressenti saccadé et vif qui peut paraître parfois un peu infantile ou en tout cas naïf  mais si généreux et gai ! Vous êtes indéniablement possessif et peu soucieux de ce que pense votre partenaire, mais heureusement, votre spontanéité et votre authenticité permettent facilement de vous faire pardonner. Quand l'intensité est là, tout va bien. Pas de romantisme ni de prise de tête avec vous, vous aimez avec ardeur et le seul risque pour votre couple, en dehors de quelques emballements - ou plutôt d'occasions et d'herbe tendre prises ici ou là - est que l'ennui s'installe et si c'est le cas, vous partirez sans le moindre regret et oublierez aussi vite ce qui vous consumait il y a peu de temps.

The Sun in Aries: his will and inner motivations

Mars in Aries: his ability to take action

Impulsif, impatient, rapide et énergique vous ? Oui bien sûr, Roger de Bussy-Rabutin. Vous êtes courageux et  capable d'efforts intenses et très importants sur une courte durée ; et quel rythme ! Que ce soit dans le sport ou bien sur le plan de la sexualité, vous n'êtes pas du genre à réfléchir, vous agissez, un peu "à la hussarde" et instinctivement. Vous parlez avec franchise sans vous soucier de l'opinion de l'autre et surtout sans supporter qu'il ne vous freine ou qu'il ne vous juge. Avec vous, cela passe ou cela casse, ce qui fait que tous vos échanges relationnels ne s'embarrassent pas de diplomatie ou de compromis. Vous êtes trop franc et trop entier pour perdre du temps avec de la finesse ou de la ruse mais c'est ce qui fait votre charme d'un certain côté car avec vous au moins, on sait à quoi s'en tenir.

Conclusion

This text is only an excerpt from the portrait of of Roger de Bussy-Rabutin, which we hope will inspire you to deepen your knowledge of astrology.

Since the birth time is unknown,, these portrait excerpts do not take into account the parameters derived from the time, which means, the domification (Ascendant, astrological houses, etc.). Nonetheless, these analyses remain accurate in any case.

Regarding the sources of the birth data in our possession, kindly note that the pages we publish constitute a starting point for more detailed research, even though they seem useful to us. When the sources are contradictory, which occurs rarely, after having analysed them, we choose the most reliable one. Sometimes, we publish a birth date just because it is made available, but we do not claim that is it the best one, by no means.